Good idea to eliminate one of the two lists of messages. Much more organized. With regard to the Slotte case, however, your comment is disappointing. I thought the reason a District Attorney was elected by District is so he/she could watch over criminal activity in that District and take care of the people in the District. It appears from your reply that the hot potato cases are be sent away to other Districts to get the heat off you and neither do you know the details, protect innocent people in your District from unwarranted allegations of crime, nor care. The Slotte case is a horror story each of us should pray we avoid. He was accused by the State Police based on rumor and by a disgruntled fellow officer, the case was sent to another District to get the heat off your District, the other District frittered away on the case for over a year while the accused had been suspended from his job without pay based only on the faulty OSP investigation. The other District Attorney finally dumps the case saying there was insufficient evidence of a crime and you are not telling the people in your District anything about the case. In the meantime the person who was accused has not been reinstated to his job, has to work part time jobs to make ends meet, suffers from the initial allegations printed in the newspaper that have never been refuted by the criminal justice system that erred and cannot get a job in his choosen profession because of the allegations that have been dismissed in another District but not explained by you. Questions: This is the kind of justice you believe in? Is this the kind of fairness envisioned by US law? The Rule of Law seems really in danger here. If you want to do the right thing, you will post the OSP report and the other District Attorney's opinion in their entirity for all to see.
It was not sent to another county for any other reason that if a decision was made to charge or not to charge, as was made, of a detective our office worked with, there won't be a claim of Good Old Boyism - that has been a problem here before. We do not post the results of No Files. Generally people NOT charged with crimes don't want the allegations restated. If there is no criminal charge the matter the materials are public record and available from the agency that possesses them.
Sorry, Josh, but maybe you missed the question: Since your office has a copy of the report on the Slotte investigation and since you say that public records are available from the agency that possesses them, can I get a copy of the report from your office?
OK, now I am mistified. The alledged crime was committed in Clatsop County. You, the DA, farmed the case out because of a conflict in that the accused was a police officer with whom you and your office staff had a relationship. That action is understandable, but, the alledged crime was still the responsibility of Clatsop County (at least that seems to be the reason there are District Attorneys in each county rather than doing the more efficient model of having the Attorney General's staff prosecute crimes throughout the State. The DA the case was farmed out to decided, after an inordinate amount of time, that there was no crime and refused to file charges. Your office, which remains responsible for crimes committed in Clatsop County does not even have a copy of the police report? That is unbelievable. So, where can one get a copy of the report of a crime that was committed in Clatsop County and was sent to the Clatsop County DA for prosecution?
This forum is for people with questions, not rants. According to you - a view apparently shared by the Clackamas County DA's Office which does presumably have a report - NO crime was committed. I was just trying to save you a wasted request because my office does NOT have a copy of the report. Why you persist in asking about something that didn't happen mystifies me.
As to the "efficiency" of having the AG do all cases sorry but the framers of the Oregon Constitution thought DAs should be independent.
We send a very few cases out to insure the fairness and credibility of the system are not compromised. Because I try to be transparent I put up with a certain amount of anonymous posting but I think your question has been answered.
A STALKNIG ORDER WAS FILED AGAINST MY SON, AND WAS GRANTED BY THE OTHER PERSON IN CASE. hE HAS SINSE MOVED OUT OF AREA, BUT SHE AND HER FAMILY ARE sTILL TRYING tO CONTACT HIM ON HIS CELL PHONE. oNE OF HER FAMILY MEMBERS TRYS TO CONTACT HIM AT LEAST TWICE A WEEK., AND THE THE PERON INVOVLED, AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH. wHaT RECOURSE HAS HE?/
the phone number should show up on the cell .you can call the cell company and have the number blocked.short of that he can file a no contac order as well.
I though one had to be damaged in order to sue. Yet, a bunch of Attorney's General are sueing Arizona over a law that has not even gone into effect. How can this law have damaged anyone so far? And, will the states these lawyers work for have to pay the costs of the lawsuits?
State Attorneys General can bring lawsuits when deem fit....on both sides of the political equation. The theory is that is why they were elected. If voters/taxpayers think they are wasting their money they'll "fire" the AG at the next election....
I am seeing what I consider suspicious illegal activity online, involving a major national website, and I would like to alert the appropriate law enforcement agency to the situation. I was told local or county law enforcement is the place to start, although it seems the scope of this matter should be at the federal level. How do I proceed?
If you were presented a case like this would YOU prosecute: -Children sexually abused by biological father -Gave clear and consistent disclosures (sodomy and intercourse) to DHS and to Cares NW -Drew graphic images of the abuse that are part of police report -Too much time (a few years) had passed to actually have physical damage evidence or DNA -Case founded and substantiated by Cares NW and DHS -children also disclosed to therapists -Perpetrator failed 3 lie detector tests -Perpetrator had a psychosexual evaluation showing he was at risk to children -Perpetrator has had no contact of any kind for five years but keeps trying to gain access through family court -Perpetrator did not deny abuse while on the stand in family court -Perpetrator was found to have had "inappropriate sexual contact" by a family court judge -Perpetrator signed an "action agreement" with DHS and a supplemental judgment based on that agreement and did not follow through with proper treatment -Perpetrator is unrepentant, untreated unaccountable and coming after 4 minor children 2 of whom he sexually abused, 2 of whom he was found to be a "threat of harm" to -Perpetrator has surrounded himself with those who have enabled him including the family court judge which makes him even more dangerous and even more likely to be able to have access to his victims
I read the Daily Astorian article on the "study" you did on the Astoria Municipal Court. I am surprised that the "study" did not contain totally accurate data. Question 1: Why would you submit a study done by your employee that had inaccuracies? Question 2: why do you want to take over cases from the Astoria Municipal Court in any case? Question 3, if the lawyers that ply their trade in the Astoria Municipal Court are corrupt, ie: violate the lawyers Code of Professional Conduct, why do you not report them (and you did not report at least three cases you know about)?
I'll be writing a lot more soon about the whole issue.
The statistics themselves were never really challenged and I while there may have been a few inaccuracies in the detailed descrptions of almost 20 DUII cases none of them change the basic question....why does Astoria hold onto DUII cases so hard? I want to take the cases because I have been begged by Astoria Police officers to do so. They are concerned their cases are not being adequately prosecuted in Municipal Court. The evidence bears out their concern. People should be treated the same no matter who their lawyer is and how much money they have. I am confident that the Circuit Court handles DUIIs fairly. I am elected. The judges are elected. Ther is accountanility and the possibility of appeals. None of those exist in Municipal Court as to DUIIs. The other four cities in Clatsop County send their DUIIs to the state/DA's office/Circuit Court. Judge Kaino is not subject to supervision by the Judicial Fitness Commission because of a case he won convincing the Oregon Supreme Court that a municipal court judge wasn't included in their jurisdiction.
Good idea to eliminate one of the two lists of messages. Much more organized.
ReplyDeleteWith regard to the Slotte case, however, your comment is disappointing. I thought the reason a District Attorney was elected by District is so he/she could watch over criminal activity in that District and take care of the people in the District. It appears from your reply that the hot potato cases are be sent away to other Districts to get the heat off you and neither do you know the details, protect innocent people in your District from unwarranted allegations of crime, nor care. The Slotte case is a horror story each of us should pray we avoid. He was accused by the State Police based on rumor and by a disgruntled fellow officer, the case was sent to another District to get the heat off your District, the other District frittered away on the case for over a year while the accused had been suspended from his job without pay based only on the faulty OSP investigation. The other District Attorney finally dumps the case saying there was insufficient evidence of a crime and you are not telling the people in your District anything about the case. In the meantime the person who was accused has not been reinstated to his job, has to work part time jobs to make ends meet, suffers from the initial allegations printed in the newspaper that have never been refuted by the criminal justice system that erred and cannot get a job in his choosen profession because of the allegations that have been dismissed in another District but not explained by you.
Questions: This is the kind of justice you believe in? Is this the kind of fairness envisioned by US law?
The Rule of Law seems really in danger here.
If you want to do the right thing, you will post the OSP report and the other District Attorney's opinion in their entirity for all to see.
It was not sent to another county for any other reason that if a decision was made to charge or not to charge, as was made, of a detective our office worked with, there won't be a claim of Good Old Boyism - that has been a problem here before.
ReplyDeleteWe do not post the results of No Files. Generally people NOT charged with crimes don't want the allegations restated.
If there is no criminal charge the matter the materials are public record and available from the agency that possesses them.
there has never been a good old boy .thing in clatsop county.!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMr. Marquis,
ReplyDeleteThen, since I know your office has a copy of the OSP investigation on officer Slotte, can I get a copy from you?
that woud make me wounder why.?
ReplyDeleteSorry, Josh, but maybe you missed the question: Since your office has a copy of the report on the Slotte investigation and since you say that public records are available from the agency that possesses them, can I get a copy of the report from your office?
ReplyDeleteOK, now I am mistified. The alledged crime was committed in Clatsop County. You, the DA, farmed the case out because of a conflict in that the accused was a police officer with whom you and your office staff had a relationship. That action is understandable, but, the alledged crime was still the responsibility of Clatsop County (at least that seems to be the reason there are District Attorneys in each county rather than doing the more efficient model of having the Attorney General's staff prosecute crimes throughout the State. The DA the case was farmed out to decided, after an inordinate amount of time, that there was no crime and refused to file charges. Your office, which remains responsible for crimes committed in Clatsop County does not even have a copy of the police report? That is unbelievable. So, where can one get a copy of the report of a crime that was committed in Clatsop County and was sent to the Clatsop County DA for prosecution?
ReplyDeleteThis forum is for people with questions, not rants.
ReplyDeleteAccording to you - a view apparently shared by the Clackamas County DA's Office which does presumably have a report - NO crime was committed. I was just trying to save you a wasted request because my office does NOT have a copy of the report. Why you persist in asking about something that didn't happen mystifies me.
As to the "efficiency" of having the AG do all cases sorry but the framers of the Oregon Constitution thought DAs should be independent.
We send a very few cases out to insure the fairness and credibility of the system are not compromised.
Because I try to be transparent I put up with a certain amount of anonymous posting but I think your question has been answered.
agian i wounder why he needs the info.?
ReplyDeleteA STALKNIG ORDER WAS FILED AGAINST MY SON, AND WAS GRANTED BY THE OTHER PERSON IN CASE. hE HAS SINSE MOVED OUT OF AREA, BUT SHE AND HER FAMILY ARE sTILL TRYING tO CONTACT HIM ON HIS CELL PHONE. oNE OF HER FAMILY MEMBERS TRYS TO CONTACT HIM AT LEAST TWICE A WEEK., AND THE THE PERON INVOVLED, AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH. wHaT RECOURSE HAS HE?/
ReplyDeletethe phone number should show up on the cell .you can call the cell company and have the number blocked.short of that he can file a no contac order as well.
ReplyDeleteI though one had to be damaged in order to sue. Yet, a bunch of Attorney's General are sueing Arizona over a law that has not even gone into effect. How can this law have damaged anyone so far? And, will the states these lawyers work for have to pay the costs of the lawsuits?
ReplyDeleteState Attorneys General can bring lawsuits when deem fit....on both sides of the political equation.
ReplyDeleteThe theory is that is why they were elected.
If voters/taxpayers think they are wasting their money they'll "fire" the AG at the next election....
I am seeing what I consider suspicious illegal activity online, involving a major national website, and I would like to alert the appropriate law enforcement agency to the situation. I was told local or county law enforcement is the place to start, although it seems the scope of this matter should be at the federal level. How do I proceed?
ReplyDeleteIf you were presented a case like this would YOU prosecute:
ReplyDelete-Children sexually abused by biological father
-Gave clear and consistent disclosures (sodomy and intercourse) to DHS and to Cares NW
-Drew graphic images of the abuse that are part of police report
-Too much time (a few years) had passed to actually have physical damage evidence or DNA
-Case founded and substantiated by Cares NW and DHS
-children also disclosed to therapists
-Perpetrator failed 3 lie detector tests
-Perpetrator had a psychosexual evaluation showing he was at risk to children
-Perpetrator has had no contact of any kind for five years but keeps trying to gain access through family court
-Perpetrator did not deny abuse while on the stand in family court
-Perpetrator was found to have had "inappropriate sexual contact" by a family court judge
-Perpetrator signed an "action agreement" with DHS and a supplemental judgment based on that agreement and did not follow through with proper treatment
-Perpetrator is unrepentant, untreated unaccountable and coming after 4 minor children 2 of whom he sexually abused, 2 of whom he was found to be a "threat of harm" to
-Perpetrator has surrounded himself with those who have enabled him including the family court judge which makes him even more dangerous and even more likely to be able to have access to his victims
I read the Daily Astorian article on the "study" you did on the Astoria Municipal Court. I am surprised that the "study" did not contain totally accurate data. Question 1: Why would you submit a study done by your employee that had inaccuracies? Question 2: why do you want to take over cases from the Astoria Municipal Court in any case? Question 3, if the lawyers that ply their trade in the Astoria Municipal Court are corrupt, ie: violate the lawyers Code of Professional Conduct, why do you not report them (and you did not report at least three cases you know about)?
ReplyDeleteI'll be writing a lot more soon about the whole issue.
ReplyDeleteThe statistics themselves were never really challenged and I while there may have been a few inaccuracies in the detailed descrptions of almost 20 DUII cases none of them change the basic question....why does Astoria hold onto DUII cases so hard?
I want to take the cases because I have been begged by Astoria Police officers to do so. They are concerned their cases are not being adequately prosecuted in Municipal Court. The evidence bears out their concern. People should be treated the same no matter who their lawyer is and how much money they have. I am confident that the Circuit Court handles DUIIs fairly. I am elected. The judges are elected. Ther is accountanility and the possibility of appeals. None of those exist in Municipal Court as to DUIIs. The other four cities in Clatsop County send their DUIIs to the state/DA's office/Circuit Court.
Judge Kaino is not subject to supervision by the Judicial Fitness Commission because of a case he won convincing the Oregon Supreme Court that a municipal court judge wasn't included in their jurisdiction.